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2012-05-03 at 16:12

Safety issues?

By Leith Dunick, tbnewswatch.com
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Cracked metal plates spanning the James Street Swing Bridge have several motorists calling for the century-old structure’s replacement.

The bridge, owned by the Canadian National Railway, is the main link between the city and Fort William First Nation, with thousands of cars using it to traverse the Kaminisquia River each day.

Terry Schmerk lives on Mountain Road and has used the crossing for the past 15 years. It’s starting to frighten him, he said.

“It’s dangerous. It’s dangerous to travel and it’s gotten even more horrendous, as far as being backed up with people going to get gas services, the elevators. There’s a lot of industry out here as well as residential, and the bridge can’t take the traffic, especially with the speed bumps. It just backs it up.”

Calling it a blight on the city landscape, Schmerk said it’s just a huge, ugly pimple that needs to be dealt with sooner, rather than later.

“I think the city … has to have a new bridge. We need to allow access here. To access Highway 61 in the morning is brutal as far as traffic goes. It’s a long wait. It’s dangerous trying to access it. This bridge needs to be renewed, and I think (with) a new bridge, because I don’t they can repair this bridge. They shouldn’t have to have speed bumps to make it safe.”

CN officials, reached by phone Thursday afternoon, said the James Street Swing Bridge is perfectly safe for both railway and commuter traffic – though motorists are cautioned to obey the 20-kilometre-an-hour speed limit and height and weight restrictions.

CN engineers are slated to meet next Wednesday with the city’s engineering process, when they hope to address a long-term maintenance plan for the aging bridge.

However both CN officials and city engineer Pat Mauro declined interview opportunities on Thursday. The city has a usage agreement for commuter traffic to use the structure.

Schmerk’s wife Maxine said there’s plenty of proof the bridge has seen better days.

“A woman fell through here within the last year. If it had been somebody else, perhaps more attention would have been drawn to how desperate this bridge needs to be refurbished or closed down – one or the other,” she said, having crossed the bridge, parked her car and walked back across the bridge to have her say with reporters capturing images of the broken plates.

The woman had to be rescued from the river last July, after falling through walking along the west side of the span. Two people were sent to hospital in the incident, which occurred when a metal plate on the bridge came loose, exposing the wooden beams below.

“Listen to it. It’s a rickety old bridge,” Maxine Scherk said. 

Kristine Maksymiw said she called both Thunder Bay Police and the Anishinabek Police Service on Thursday, asking what can be done about the dangerous conditions on the bridge.

It’s an ongoing concern, she said.

“Las year I drove across and had noted there was an actual one of the metal plates that was actually missing,” she said.

“There was an actual hole going all the way through below … Shortly thereafter a woman actually fell through the bridge. It’s scary. Somebody needs to be responsible for this before someone is truly injured or dies.”

Maksymiw said a lot of people she knows refuse to cross the bridge and take the long way into the city or onto the reserve.

“All those bolts that are just sticking up, again, you’re literally trying to sway back and forth to where it’s safe, not driving over these bolts. It needs to be fixed.”

 

 

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humnchuck says:
If you think it's bad up top, take a look from down below when you're on the water. Yikes. The supports look about ready to fall apart.
5/3/2012 4:25:00 PM
hockeyskates says:
I just drove over the bridge. The thing can support three 200,000 pound locomotives at the same time, so I am not worried. The metal needs to be secured again. Beyond that I will keep going there for gas.








5/3/2012 8:54:36 PM
Delbert Grady says:
Hysterics.

The engineers have examined that bridge countless times and keep reaching the same conclusion. Its safe.

If you dont like it, dont use it. Theres other options.

And nobody just "fell" through the bridge. Theres alot more to that story than just that nonsense.
5/3/2012 4:27:23 PM
moonpie says:
Engineers said the Titanic was unsinkable.

Engineers said the World Trade Center should have withstood fire.

Engineers didn't expect the Space shuttle Challenger to explode after liftoff or Columbia to break up on re-entry, but they did.

The leaning tower of Pisa was not designed to be leaning. ENGINEERING FAILURE!

You really think engineers wouldn't sign off on a bridge in the middle of butt-muck nowhere? God you're a pompous idiot.
5/3/2012 6:06:28 PM
Delbert Grady says:
Actually, it wasnt engineers that claimed Titanic was unsinkable, it was the media, who carelessly edited out modifers such as "practically" before the word unsinkable was ever brought up.

The WTC burned. It was structurally compromised, doused in kerosene, and subjected to hurrican force winds which makes even a simple fuel mixed with oxygen turn into a cutting torch.

Space shuttle? Politics forced a launch that had been aborted "too many times" for NASA who chose not to listen to its own engineers.

Leaning Tower of Pisa leans because of soil conditions. Not so much the fault of engineers, not to mention it was built in the 1300s.

So, now that we know youre afraid of engineers, how do you manage to drive your engineered automobile to actually get to the bridge to be so concerned about it?

Do you run for cover everytime a plane flys overhead? Do you stay off staircases? Are you afraid of your hot water heater too?


So, really now, who is the pompous idiot here?
5/3/2012 10:57:55 PM
moonpie says:
Your claim was engineers have given the James street bridge the thumbs up structurally speakings its safety should not be questioned. I simply pointed out a few (of thousands) engineering marvels that failed due to unforeseen weaknesses in their design or planning by - you guessed it - engineers.

I apologize if my comment caused you to soil yourself during your tantrum but you've only aided in reinforcing my statement which was basically saying anything can happen and neither you or the engineers can say for certain this bridge will never just give in one day. Time will tell.

I'm a risk taker, I don't fear engineers or their creations. Most people are not and have the right to be skeptical about the safety of something such as this where so many lives are at risk every day. Here's hoping you're not on the bridge the day it collapses, I'd hate to have to say I told you so.
5/4/2012 1:40:59 AM
Swirly-Q says:
Congratulations on completely missing the point of Moonpie's post and trying to explain away rhetorical examples. Sure, engineers weren't responsible for some of his examples but the point was that experts make mistakes (also, how a foundations failure at the leaning tower isn't an engineering mistake is beyond me).

For more relevent examples... Structural engineers regularly inspected the I-95 bridge in Minneapolis and the Lavalle bridge near Montreal prior to their recent collapses. Experts make mistakes.
5/4/2012 8:51:52 AM
baor says:
You still are.
5/4/2012 4:05:49 PM
Delbert Grady says:
another top quality comment from our chief whiner.

Do you ever try to make a point, or do you just call names and latch onto others trying to score points?
5/5/2012 12:04:44 PM
hockeyskates says:
And what is your area of expertise ? Mushrooms ?

5/3/2012 11:39:20 PM
hockeyskates says:
My comment was directed to Moonpie. Not Delbert who nailed it.
5/4/2012 8:32:06 AM
moi says:
LOL...don't you mean "God PIE you're a pompous idiot?"
5/7/2012 12:39:02 PM
adella says:
My brother in law interned for an investigator into the events leading up to the I-35W Bridge collapse and engineers DID deem that bridge safe. My husband is an engineer, and they're people too, and like everyone else mistakes can be made. Having said that, neither my hubby nor my brother in law, when he is in town, will drive over that bridge.
5/4/2012 8:57:05 AM
The Badger Mountain Hermit says:
I invite you all to park, and go for a little walk, and take a look UNDER that bridge, and see how this marvel of engineering is supported. I have. I was appalled. If you think it looks unsafe above, look underneath, and let me know what you think.
5/3/2012 4:35:24 PM
panzerIV says:
Push too hard and this is what CN will say. CN doesn't want to spend huge money on a bridge that isn't of high value to them. They don't care if its visually appealing or not. Its about the $

"OK the bridge is closed now and only open to trains, go around"
5/3/2012 4:35:45 PM
common_sense says:
I know someone has said it before but if the bridge can hold a train engine it can hold cars backed up along both sides. I do think the steel on either side of the bridge the traffic is on needs to be kept under constant check though.
5/3/2012 4:38:16 PM
deluxecustom says:
"Hysterics"? You must be either nieve or just plain dumb. Anyone with even limited mechanical intelligence would conclude that the appearance is more than just cosmetic. You can not leave metal uncoated for extended periods of time with out comprimising it's integrity. Let alone years of neglect. I would love to see the inspection report on the structure.EVEN if the structure IS sound, it sure is in a state of neglect and disrepair. If you can not see it, then you are visually impaired.With all the vehicles crossing it everyday,I doubt the engineering firm would sign off on it if they knew the liability related to their decision."Countless time"? You mean, too many times to even count?
I think not..
5/3/2012 4:51:41 PM
Boffo says:
The stress of a train going by at the same time that cars are backed up on both sides has to be doing something to it.
5/3/2012 4:58:02 PM
The Wolf says:
I always questioned the slower speed on that bridge possibly leading to an unsafer situation then people driving 40km/h on it.

I also take off my seatbelt every time I cross over it.
5/3/2012 5:00:28 PM
TBDR says:
uh yeah don't do that. Having your seatbelt off if your car ever went through it, means you'd probably have a shattered ribcage courtesy of your steering wheel when you landed in the drink.

But as others have mentioned...if anything is going to bring this bridge down, its a locomotive, not a few cars.
5/4/2012 1:55:17 AM
yer joking says:
Right on Wolf! That will save you every time. Also lean into the punch, another good tip>
5/7/2012 10:37:05 AM
Arch Stanton says:
Well it may be able to hold a loaded locomotive, but those metal plates on the vehicle roadbeds are a DISGRACE. Split edges, broken plates and multiple jagged protrusions to shred tires all the way across.

Don't even start me on those ludicrous speed-bumps - how much extra shock-loading do they put on the old structure???????????
5/3/2012 5:13:18 PM
pb_goodness says:
Perhaps the Fort William band could contribute to the replacement as part of their gas business model
5/3/2012 5:29:51 PM
anvil of crom says:
I have driven that bridge a few times gone under it a few and yeah its old and kinda scary.
but folks face it , if you want a new one , we are looking at BIG BUCKs out of taxpayers pocket, and maybe the railways.
So say we have to pay 100 mill, whadda ya thinks now?
....
5/3/2012 5:30:15 PM
The Wolf says:
Perhaps you should ask that question to the families of people who died when I-35W Mississippi River bridge in Minneapolis collapsed.
5/3/2012 8:14:29 PM
JIMMY2 says:
I for ne would athe my tax paying dollars were spent on this bridge, rather then the art going up around this city, This bridge has gotten severely bad within the last few years, and i would say it is due to the speed bumps, if you go near that bridge at 4pm, it has lines going in and out of the mission, and you tell me that its not doing any damage, how often does a train go by, compared to the amount of vehicles crossing, lets just wait for a terrible accident to happen before we realize just how terrible this bridge is, For people that say if you dont like it go around??? No I prefer not to waste gas,and time to drive all the way around on the highway, that is what the bridge is for, but in the same sentance, lets fix the problem.
5/3/2012 6:12:09 PM
DazeofThunder says:
Thunder Bay's infrastructure is aging everywhere. I don't think the city can keep up with everything that needs to be done. The downtown core is a ghost town. We as taxpayers in Thunder Bay don't have the money to give as we would like to as our average salaries too low and we already pay as much as we can and just barely survive. This is why the people have Occupy movements. They don't know how to explain it but if I were to assist them they would merely be saying, if we are going to solve all the cities/countries/world's problems then we need to turn the free capitalist system we created into something we can truly use to this country's advantage.
5/3/2012 6:12:43 PM
hardrawkin says:
Just the way we do things up here.
If it aint broke don't fix it,
and whatever you do. Don't paint it
5/3/2012 6:37:14 PM
passlake says:
if you don't like the bridge, use highway 61.

If highway 61 is busy, leave 5 minutes earlier. The access itself isn't dangerous, it's the people trying to rush to merge into traffic that's dangerous.. just like other intersections in town.
5/3/2012 7:03:39 PM
dad3192 says:
Just by your gas and cigarettes in town if you dony wanna drive over it
5/3/2012 7:19:04 PM
cr resident says:
that bridge really needs to be fixed regardless what the underneath looks like... broken metal plates result in flat tires
5/3/2012 7:29:11 PM
westfortisthebestfort says:
Love the video, it really supports the story...I especially enjoyed the blue car!!
5/3/2012 7:36:26 PM
humnchuck says:
What was the cost of the Kam River bridge to McKellar Island in the East End? Something similar could be constructed road-only (leave the existing bridge to the railway) and I'm pretty certain it's not going to be $100m...more like $10m maybe? "Swing Bridge" capability isn't necessary as the Kam isn't used for ship traffic any longer.
5/3/2012 7:41:16 PM
The Big Head says:
Why don't the prople of the First Nation fix the bride? Why is CN property being fixed by the city? Oh.... wait... if the city enginners are looking at it, it will be shut down just like every other structure they look at. Maybe 1/2 First Nations and 1/2 CN?
5/3/2012 7:56:32 PM
elvis2010 says:
I think it's more 3/4 the reserve and 1/4 the city's problem. Like panzerIV said CN will just say "OK the bridge is closed now and only open to trains, go around". The bridge was built for train traffic not the vehicle traffic it sees today.
5/3/2012 9:59:01 PM
unknowncronic says:
Don't worry about the bridge,
it's all about the marina/hotel & the "2 talking poles"!!
5/3/2012 8:15:43 PM
Joey Joe Joe Jr. Shabadoo says:
Just remember to open your windows before crossing the bridge, or u will have to wait till the vehicle fills up to open the door under water. Have a glass breaking seatbelt cutting tool handy when crossing that bridge.


They look something like this:
Tbnewswatch.com

5/3/2012 8:24:48 PM
norscaner says:
Pretty simple solution here set up a toll gate to pay for improvements or close the bridge to vehicle traffic. Like the golf courses user pay.
5/3/2012 9:14:52 PM
counterpunch says:
The bridge is owned by CN. It sits on Native land. It is not part of Ontario, and it isn't part of Thunder Bay. You can't impose a toll on a bridge you don't own, on land that is not yours.

5/3/2012 11:09:42 PM
mikevirtanen1961 says:
That land hasn't been part of the Reserve since 1906. The boundary line between the City and Reserve is City Road, which forms the T-intersection in front of Bannon's.
5/4/2012 2:28:05 PM
tsb says:
Structurally speaking, the bridge is sound. It is the road deck that is the issue. The lanes are too narrow, and the driving surface is unsuitable for vehicles.
5/3/2012 9:26:01 PM
Delbert Grady says:
I rode on many a school bus to Chippewa Day Camp over that bridge in the 70's.

They had no trouble driving across that narrow bridge. Vehicles have not become wider, so why is it all of a sudden too narrow?

The Pacific Ave overpass (East End Bridge) has lanes that are just as wide, do you cry about that bridge too? It also has weight restrictions too that get ignored by everyone, including the city buses.

Face it, youre just scared because of how it looks.

Its psychological issues people have, not bridge issues.
5/3/2012 11:05:07 PM
The Wolf says:
You forgot to mention that the video supplied above shows the blue car with 2 1/2 feet on the passenger side and 2 feet on the drivers side.

If you can not safely guide a car down a path with 5 feet of total side clearance you shouldn't be driving.
5/4/2012 2:21:16 AM
Sui Generis says:
Yes, it's structurally sound. That's why a woman fell through it.
5/4/2012 2:29:01 AM
counterpunch says:
At 2 a.m !!! Lots of people fall off things at 2 a.m. Even the sidewalk.
5/4/2012 10:12:25 AM
Sui Generis says:
Drunk or sober, when the metal plate under a persons feet drops, the person falls.
5/4/2012 10:44:09 PM
ThunderBayFullOfCrime says:
The bridge needs work where cars drive. I'm sure its pretty secure considering the weight of the trains but its not secure for traffic or the amount of people that visit the mission daily. The speed bumps are a waste and hard on vehicles.
5/3/2012 10:58:35 PM
Kidknapp says:
CN should just close the bridge to automobile and pedestrian traffic to cure this issue. There is absolutely no reason you can't drive around and use hwy 61. Oh wait, the people coming from neebing will complain about the extra traffic!!!
5/3/2012 11:08:50 PM
SomeGuy says:
They can't emergency response times would be too long so they would need to put a EMS station in FWFN, costing us even more money.
5/4/2012 11:44:41 AM
sbn says:
Just clamping the plates down will be fine, the structure is good.
5/4/2012 12:23:15 AM
yqt says:
If your scared of using it, go around.
It's a private bridge, CN allows use of it as a courtesy. I say toll it the damn thing. You wanna use it, contribute to the reconstruction.
5/4/2012 12:36:51 AM
mikevirtanen1961 says:
CN signed an agreement with the town of Fort William that they would allow traffic across the bridge in exchange for other consideration. We upheld our end of the bargain; CN is doing only the bare minimum on theirs.
5/4/2012 11:01:59 AM
yqt says:
"CN signed an agreement with the town of Fort William that they would allow traffic across the bridge in exchange for other consideration."

With the "town of Fort William". So that was over 32yrs ago, if not longer. I'd like to know what those other considerations were, that probably expired or were release 20+ yrs ago.
You don't know what the bargain was, nor do you know if it was upheld. So unless you got all the facts and information, don't make accusations of what CN is or isn't doing.
5/4/2012 4:02:38 PM
CityHawke says:
A permanent solution to having a safe bridge over the Kam River is needed. CN, the city and First Nations need to get together and come up with a solution. Regardless if you purchase gas on the reserve others travel for work and take their kids to hockey that access the bridge.

The odd patch job doesn't cut it. Do it right and make it safe.
5/4/2012 1:21:49 AM
stephernova says:
I drive this beast multiple times a day...yeah, sure it's a pretty nasty looking bridge, but aside from the metal plates that need replacing, it's still good...just get rid of those darn speed bumps! anyone stupid enough to speed across the bridge deserves to crash down into the river anyways..
5/4/2012 2:07:24 AM
nvjgu says:
Typical CN looking type of property," you would think at least putting a coating on it to protect the steel. Keep in mind CN's safety record is less than good," American's own it now.
5/4/2012 6:32:57 AM
SG says:
Know what I loved in the video? The very last vehicle was a Thunder Bay Hydro truck... see how fast it was going?
5/4/2012 8:52:08 AM
The Wolf says:
Why do all the people who talk about rebuilding the bridge not consider building a separate bridge for the vehicles and leave the train alone on the existing one? Would be much cheaper to build just a vehicle bridge.
5/4/2012 8:54:51 AM
Tom Sanderson says:
Hmmm...lots of unemployed structural engineers commenting on the integrity of the swing bridge. I also see there is an unemployed psychologist whose diagnosis is just plain ordinary psychological issues and not bridge phobia.
It's an old bridge. Three parties utilize it and none want spend the money or chip in to fix it. Nobody is compelling you to drive across this bridge and this story will go away as soon as something new is posted.
I hope all you unemployed engineers get some work soon. Heads up -They may be hiring for the hotel project at the Marina.
5/4/2012 9:57:06 AM
Sui Generis says:
So, only those qualified professionally are allowed to hold opinions on a subject?

Good to know. I'll keep an eye on your username, in case you mistakenly post on a crime story with your viewpoint. Unless you're a police officer, your opinion is no longer warranted.
5/4/2012 10:16:11 AM
Tom Sanderson says:
OMG..Did I say that? Please point out where I made this traumatic error so I won't repeat it again.

Read what you want into a comment.

I like how you asked a question and then answer it for me in your next assumption. I think you will have to work on that mind reading thing as you were wrong again.

If I mistakenly comment on a crime story you can knock yourself out with responses:) It's a free world last time I googled it.
5/4/2012 11:53:55 AM
unknowncronic says:
Honestly, I enjoy stories like this instead of the regualar winter headlines we used to have about"MACS MART HELD UP AGAIN" or "FRIENDS STABBING FRIENDS" or "YOUTH CHARGED IN MURDER"

Chatting about rickety old bridge way better!
5/4/2012 10:50:25 AM
wayne says:
Sui, I couldn't agree more with your comment. I'm surprised Mr. Self-Righteous hadn't posted about wanting bike lanes on the bridge so that he can feel safe riding his high horse across.
5/4/2012 2:02:35 PM
Tom Sanderson says:
Hey Wayne. You'll have to introduce me to this Mr. Self-Righteous. Is he a new member? I see you mention he is interested in the bike lanes also. It would be great to meet him and have a discussion regarding the lanes.
Have a great weekend :)


5/4/2012 4:04:30 PM
youth99 says:
As most of you should remember this happened only 5 years ago and less than 600km away:

9 thought dead as Minneapolis bridge collapses
Link to the Article:

Quote from the Article:

"The bridge, built in 1967, was last inspected in 2006 and had no major structural defects or deficits, Pawlenty said. "We were told the deck would have to be replaced in 2020."


5/4/2012 3:14:43 PM
Delbert_Izannass says:
That's what they said about this bridge(I-35W).Over and Over the state mandated engineers said it was ok.THEN???? Why would the railway care.They already have a sign stating that they are not responsible for damage to your vehicles.You darn well bet that that is not the case with the center of the bridge where the trains run nice and smoothly on the most solid part of it. What Me Worry?


5/4/2012 3:35:08 PM
wayne says:
'Bridge on the River Cry'
5/4/2012 3:58:43 PM
crankypants says:
okay.. clearly the city needs to get their priorities in order, whether or be fixing a bridge that may put hundreds of peoples' lives at risk or not.... we need to fix and stabilize all our old buildings, structures and neighbourhoods... before we go wasting countless taxpayer dollars on event centres, condos, bent light polls, "balloon animal" art, among all the other clearly useless things the city thinks will add to our community. kinda parallels places like Cuba where only a curtain separates poverty and a supposedly relaxing tourist environment... investing so much money into Marina Park barely affects the rest of the city. just a reminder, they kept the conservatory open despite the falling panes of glass and obvious safety hazard. not everyone is genuine with their intentions these days...

As for delbert... try responding to peoples' posts with respectful debatable ideas instead of telling people they're "crying" and "scared" have some respect.
5/4/2012 9:37:17 PM
Delbert Grady says:
Sorry, but if people cant handle such terrible words such as "cry" or "scared"...

...then I think that just makes my choice of words even more accurate.

Next up, this is not the city's problem. Its a CN bridge. Nobody is forcing anyone to go over it. If people dont "feel" safe, then they have the choice not to use it.

The bridge is deemed safe by qualified and educated professionals. If thats not enough for them, then stay home and cry some more.

So what if I35 bridge collapsed? It was deemed one of the worst bridges in the entire USA and had known serious defects. Accidents and mistakes happen.

Planes crash too, but more people get on them everyday. Life has calculated risks. If you dont like your odds, dont take the risk.

Crossing this bridge is a minimal risk, proven by engineers. Dont like it? find another route.

but for your own dignity, stop crying like a little schoolgirl over it. You have the choice to use it or not.

Grow up and make your choice.
5/5/2012 11:44:06 AM
Swirly-Q says:
"So what if I35 bridge collapsed? It was deemed one of the worst bridges in the entire USA and had known serious defects. Accidents and mistakes happen."

You had concluded that the James Street Bridge was safe simply because the engineers say so. People brought up the I35 bridge to show the obvious folly of your argument. Do you really need this explained?

As to your new comments, by saying that the I35 bridge was deemed "one of the worst" shows that your ignorance is rivalled only by your tendancy to be swayed by the tabloid journalism that followed the incident. There are literally tens of thousands of bridges in the US that received a similar structural rating to the I35 bridge. It was hardly one of the worst.
5/5/2012 2:02:18 PM
Delbert Grady says:
Scroll down to the Maintenance and Inspection section.



I hate to cite Wikipedia, but perhaps the simpletons who cant think for themselves can understand that what I said is in fact true.

Now quit your crying and dont drive over that bridge if youre too scared to.

There is no folly to my arguement, its just some of you have terrible reading comprehension skills. Do you need that explained?

The reports are out there. The bridge was structurally deficient and scored in the worst 10% or so in the nation.

Theres plenty of bad bridges out there still in operation everyday. They have received failing grades from engineers. If you want to make a stink about a bridge, go after those ones because right now, the CNR Swing Bridge is doing just fine!
5/5/2012 6:15:32 PM
Swirly-Q says:
I don't actually have a problem with the James Street Bridge. What I have a problem with is people like you who clearly have no idea what you are talking about saying that the bridge is safe simply because it has been inspected. Then, when the collapse of other bridges (that have also been inspected) is mentioned to prove your point incorrect, you resort to wikipedia articles to show why you think you are still right.

Yes, the I35 bridge was rated as "structurally deficient"... along with tens of thousands of other bridges across the US. These bridges were still considered to be in better condition than the many bridges that are closed or given load limits due to more extreme deficiencies. Therefore, your assertion that the I35 bridge was "one of the worst" in the US is still very wrong.
5/6/2012 6:55:35 PM
eastender says:
This bridge needs a proper assessment by an unbiased engineering company, not some CN hacks who of course are going to say its safe. If the thing looks unsafe, and sounds unsafe, then it probably would be wise to err on the side of caution and presume that it is unsafe. You know, if it quacks like a duck....? CN does not care if you fall through. There probably is some legal document signed years ago which absolves them of responsibility in the event of any public mishaps that may occur as a result of using the bridge. So good luck if you suffer injury on that bridge. go around, its not that big a deal.
5/5/2012 2:38:28 AM
M.K.S. Sense says:
There are many thinks to consider when discussing the Swing Bridge. First of all, from a tourist point of view, it scares people. We have invested so much money on Chippewa Park as a tourist attraction and we must use an ugly bridge to get to it. In addition, with the amount of traffic using the bridge, it must be updated...either build a new one or make this one able to transport the traffic without plates and speed bumps. Maybe give it a coat of paint while you are at it. Using the "go around" argument does not cut it. The traffic on Highway 61 at rush hour times is high volume. Two bridges are needed...particulary in emergency situations.
5/6/2012 1:13:14 PM
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