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2013-02-11 at 19:07

Residents voice concern over proposed Wardrope Avenue cell tower

By Jeff Labine, tbnewswatch.com
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A new TBayTel cell tower on Wardrope Avenue has Renee Thomson worried.

Thomson, who lives next to the site of the proposed TbayTel cell tower near the corner of County Boulevard, voiced her concerns about the project at city council's Monday night meeting. The main message of her deputation was the possibility of serious health effects for residents living in the nearby area.

The cell tower is intended to improve service for TbayTel customers.

“I don’t want to be exposed to all this stuff,” she told council.

“The electromagnetic fields emit radiation 24-7, 365 days a year, which gives me cause for concern. We have more than our share of towers. There’s people with small children who are concerned about the hormone changes.”

Thomson said they have been asking for more information and even sent out a petition but with little success. She said that they were promised full disclosure of the project but so far, that hasn’t happened.

Thomson argued that no company has the right to mislead the public or put them in harm’s way and requested the tower be moved 225-feet away from homes. 

“No one knows for sure what the constant exposure will affect the human health in the long term and we don’t want to be sitting ducks,” she said. “To prevail on the side of safety, you need to put it further away.”

Neebing Coun. Linda Rydholm explained that the city doesn’t have a say on the towers because that responsibility falls under Industry Canada. The city’s responsibility is to say if community consultations have taken place, she said.

A report on the community consultation process of the project is expected to come before council on Feb. 25.

In other business, council also heard an update from the city’s tourism manager Paul Pepe. The update gave an overview look of last year and some of the strategies the city plans to adopt in order to increase tourism to the region.

The tourism industry brings in $127 million each year to the city.

Some of the highlights from the report included a shift from city centric approach to more emphasis on outdoor leisure activities. Pepe said they want to make Thunder Bay a premier location for outdoor activities and promote activities on Lake Superior.

“We’re really focusing on things people do when they travel,” he said. “About 75 per cent of visitors our choosing this region because of specific things that they are seeking.”

He also pointed out that the four new hotels being developed in the city will mean about 480 new rooms for visitors to rent and United Airlines will be offering daily direct flights to its hub in Chicago starting this week.

At-Large Coun. Aldo Ruberto asked if there was a way to bring more tourists from Duluth to the city since many residents travel south of the border to visit the United States.

“We spend I don’t know how many millions of dollars down in Duluth and I don’t think they are reciprocating the same amount we are,” Ruberto said.

Pepe said there’s a few challenges to attract tourism from Duluth. One of the issues is that Duluth has similar outdoor experiences to Thunder Bay.

But the city is working on new partnerships with University of Minnesota sports groups.

Pepe said they are working on events that are easy to plan to bring those groups to the city.


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Dudebro says:
People really have no clue. If you could only see the RF around us every single day every where you go, you'd realize this new tower would not pose any notable threat.
Every time you put that cellular handset to your head, every time you talk on that cordless phone...and every time you go into your home with wifi, you're exposing yourself to radio frequencies.
The power coming off of every FM radio station tower would blow you away if you knew how much RF energy they put out.
The point is, its everywhere. If you are that much against it, then you wouldn't leave your house and you would certainly NEVER have any sort of electronics anywhere in your vicinity.

Go move to the bush way up north in some cabin with no hydro, no wireless internet, phone or cellular then come back and see how you feel.
2/11/2013 7:43:59 PM
ThunderBayFullOfCrime says:
Everyone loves cell phones and uses them constantly, but nobody likes the towers that deliver their signal. Go figure. The drivers using the phones are way more dangerous than any tower could be.
2/11/2013 9:10:10 PM
sandstorm says:
I'm getting sick of all the whiners.. seriously. Get over it. there's been a tower at the corner of Wardrope and Balsam for 15 years.. your still alive? what's the addition of another one going to do. Nothing. Don't believe all the hype you hear on the internet.
2/11/2013 9:17:25 PM
tadzup says:
Sure, everyone complain that you don't want these towers on "your" street.... and then run crying to the phone companies when you can't get cell phone service in every inch of your house.

These towers are everywhere. They will continue to be everywhere, your neighbours (and probably most of the people who oppose these towers) will continue to have wireless internet and bluetooth phones and whatever other technology gives off that "stuff" you don't want to be around.

I hope these people don't have microwaves, or heck even smoke cigarettes or eat mcdonalds because that "stuff" is bad for you...
2/11/2013 10:21:37 PM
realist says:
When the residents of Regina Avenue used the same argument to try and block Bell's site, the conspiracy theorists claimed tbaytel was pulling the residents strings.

Does this mean these residents are interceding on Bell's behalf or is it the same situation as Regina Avenue where a group of uninformed individuals are trying to block progress with what ifs.
2/11/2013 11:06:42 PM
razor_burn says:
Hahaha. Nice try Renee. If you or anyone believes that you should go get a CT scan.
2/11/2013 11:33:23 PM
vimeo says:
Just curious....
Tbaytel installed a cell site on top of the Lahacienda Apartments at the corner of Edward and Churchill as well as the apartment condos near Edward and Fanshaw.

Not one peep from the residents. Not one.

Is that because it's not a tower? They're the same antennae's with the same power. In fact, these ones are even closer for the residents living on the top floor. ...less than 20 feet in some cases.You don't notice them because they're on a building. Face it folks, they're everywhere.
2/11/2013 11:45:04 PM
Spartan says:
Yes, Sandstorm is right that tower has been there so long nobody notices it. I've changed circuit boards in there 10 years ago. What pisses me off is that City Council entertains all these "cry babies and special interest groups" wasting their time that could be spend on more pressing city matters. Let Bell, Tbaytel and who every wants to put up towers have at it, I hear there are some new designs for towers, lets get creative.
2/12/2013 12:04:08 AM
codvx87 says:
Renee Thomson is just exposing herself as an uneducated torrent of banter. Why is anyone even paying attention?

Did she complain when a new radio station opens? No, because it wasn't a bandwagon
2/12/2013 12:06:47 AM
dynamiter says:
Danish researchers studied more than 358,000 people in the largest study on the topic to date, and found no difference in cancer rates between those who have used cell phones for a decade and those who have not -
but not second hand smoke, smoking, eating too much blackened bbq burgers, too much alcohol,too much French fries.

Don't be scared about stupid cell towers control what you can control people - stop wasting your and others time - go to the Gym
2/12/2013 12:10:55 AM
Sailsup says:
Hey Aldo.....you wonder why the city of Duluth doesn't reciprocate?. We are the murder capital of Canada. Our highway from pigeon river is like a goat trail...and we have a half finished marina with NO attractions... Why WOULD they come here?.
2/12/2013 12:28:24 AM
trevor99 says:
I will go along with the murder capital, but disagree with the highway. We have as many passing lanes from the border to T.Bay then they do from the border to Two Harbours. Our highway is as good as that stretch. But wasn't the Marina expansion done to attract tourists yet now we admit that attracting Duluth people here is tough. If those folks won't drive 3.5 hours here, why will someone drive 6-8. The tourists aren't coming, not when they have so many other choices on the US side. This quest for the almighty tourist dollar that has been going on for decades is not working but we keep hiring people and spending money to look for it and its still not here.
2/12/2013 8:39:19 AM
SomeGuy says:
Disguise it as a palm tree they'll never know it's a cell tower.
2/12/2013 8:09:06 AM
oldtimerqt says:

Cell tower

"A new TBayTel cell tower on Wardrope Avenue has Renee Thomson worried....?"

But No one seemed to worried about the cell tower system adjacent to the kindergarten classroom at Crestview school or the house next door in Murillo before or after it was installed...any hazard radiation signs?
2/12/2013 8:23:50 AM
RelaxinginMurillo says:
Correct me if Im wrong, of course, but Im fairly sure that most antennas dont radiate 'downward' at all. The signal travels horizontally in an expanding cone of sorts. Living 'under' a cell tower is probably quite safe (well, unless the tower itself falls on you..).
2/12/2013 7:39:20 PM
Bigtime says:
Wow...Everyone whined and complained about tbaytel not delivering service and wanting them to fix it. Then when they want to fix it and build a tower and provide the service you seek...you get this. They want the service fixed...but do not want the towers? And you wonder why it took so long for tbaytel to resolve the issues they were having. People in this city want want want, but are not willing to give something up. They probably have people calling in with service issues in that area which is why they want to erect a tower, and it wont get done now. I hope the people with any service issues int hat area realize that its one of their own peers delaying service resolution.
2/12/2013 8:35:01 AM
conker2012 says:
Typical Thunder Bay NIMBY attitude.

Get used to it peole. The more we expand out our city the more cell towers TBAYTEL will need.
2/12/2013 8:59:59 AM
alarmforce says:
Maybe TBaytel should do like they do in Mexico & Southern California --- make the towers look like Palm Trees to make them look more appealing. O Yes this is Thunder Bay, they would have to look like a scruffy old pine tree!!
2/12/2013 10:33:38 AM
vimeo says:
How about disguising it as wind turbine? That'll work.
2/12/2013 2:05:55 PM
Armchair Tom Brady says:
Who cares. Build the towers.
2/12/2013 4:46:02 PM
TBDR says:
there is zero scientific evidence that electromagnetic energy causes health effects... period. Google it.
2/12/2013 4:59:35 PM
stuck? says:
Why can't I DuckDuckGo it? Google filters/doctors their search results to appease big business/big media.
2/13/2013 12:13:27 PM
nwhewitson says:
Cells are several kilometres in diameter, there's no hiding from them. If there are bars on your phone, you're exposed. In fact, due to the nature of directional antennae on these sites the safest place to be is probably right next to it... in it's broadcast shadow
2/13/2013 8:31:55 AM
combatwombat says:
NIMBY ..... simple. as. that.
BUT!! The "power of the tower"s effect on the wonderfully complex human mind cannot be underestimated, be it a evil wind turbine or a martian antenna-ed cell tower. If it was underground pah.. no issues, but when its in your view....big trouble.
As to science and proof people seem to poo poo the results, especially if the results do not agree with their preconcieved conclusions. Ask any Councillor trained in marital dispute resolution !
With these towers and their ill effects, Its a nasty soup of anecdotal science, a dash of conspiracy theory, and a bit of the illuminati spice, served by of course " The Man".
Same with these wind turbines infrasound and light flicker.
people need to eat less processed food and exercise... simple as that.
really worried about electromagnetism?turn the power off in the house , never watch a TV or a computer screen, and needless to say, throw out the cell phone, dig a cave, jump in and call it a day.
2/13/2013 4:19:01 PM
tiredofit says:
Ah... the old NIMBY name calling... all is fine and good until it directly affects you. Once the shoe is on the other foot, most people will all of a sudden become NIMBY's.
2/13/2013 4:07:56 PM
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