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2013-05-10 at 17:19

Hydro rates rise by six per cent

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Residents will be seeing their hydro rates going up by more than 6 per cent.

Officials with the Ontario Energy Board released their decision on the rates for Thunder Bay Hydro Friday.

Residents should expect an increase of 6.35 per cent or roughly $6.75 more to a household that uses 800kWh. Businesses received a 5.18 per cent increase.

The changes to the rates went into effect May 1.

The decision included changes to both provincial and local charges including the April 5 announcement about increases in time-of-use rates, new provincial charge for smart meter entity and one-year rate rider for disposal of old meters.

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chbaker says:

We already pay WAY to much for electricity.
We need competition or something.

I feel like the hydro company is holding me hostage.. I have no choice, no options. Except to have no electricity.

So, It's either bend over and take it from the electricity company, or have no power at all.

Sounds crooked.
5/10/2013 5:28:36 PM
TWM says:
I agree 100%... we are held hostage to their increases while our elected MP's do nothing to control the money grab
5/10/2013 6:29:07 PM
gusto says:
First they charge me to put in new "smart" meters, then charge more to use the electricity, AND on top of all that, charge me to dispose of the old meters????
5/10/2013 5:32:04 PM
advocate says:
I am not happy about the rate increase, but my bill went down a 1/3 when the Smart Meters went into affect. Are you using your energy at the wrong time?
5/10/2013 5:56:56 PM
Today1 says:
must be...trying to get some sleep at night, instead of doing laundry, and vacuuming the house... ;-(
5/12/2013 12:39:49 AM
ibrando says:
A day after a story claimed that wages in Thunder Bay rose 8%. Let the wave of increases begin!
5/10/2013 5:41:10 PM
tbayworker says:
Don't forget about the added fee for debt reduction ! I wish I could add a charge to my customers invoices because I either had a bad year or because bad decisions were made and I lost money
5/10/2013 5:54:16 PM
Neebing1414 says:
they are just preparing for the price of the wind turbines
5/10/2013 6:24:01 PM
trevor99 says:
Nothing like a rate increase to get the out of this world comments flying.

Almost have of the bill is delivery charges. My last bill was just over $140 for the two months for our family home. So lets take $90 of that for the actual electricity which is high. This increase means $5.40 for the increase in my bill, or $2.70 a month.

$2.70 a month. less than 10 cents a day.

Like most people, I don't want any prices to go up but I expect them to. If you cannot afford this, then you have much bigger problems than the cost of electricity.

Now, let the ridiculous comments begin.

And for those who have a $300 bill for two months. Two things.

1. it works out to be about $15 increase in your bill for a two month period if you assume $250 of your bill is the power cost which is likely high. Your increase is likely lower than that.
2. Stop using so much power

It is because of people like you, that causes the demand for power across Ontario. We need to use less, so that we need to build less
5/10/2013 7:00:40 PM
tiredofit says:
Trevor99, the only problem with that comparison that it's only xxx increase is that all over utilities like water, taxes etc are all going up just a little. Well all those little increase added up to a lot at the end of the year and not everyone can afford it.

That equates to a few meals for low income families with kids.

Now factor in the nice little 10% discount the province gives us on each bill will soon end, therefore the 6% becomes 16% etc.. etc..

You tell us to stop using power, well we did that and the Hydro companies lost revenue, so what did they do? They increased the rates to compensate for it.
5/12/2013 4:26:19 PM
nvjgu says:
Why don't they just raise it 50%. That's what it's going to be in couple year's or sooner
5/10/2013 7:08:30 PM
Marak says:
What th...??? My last hydro bill was over 400 BUCKS!!! That much and I have a gas dryer, gas heat, gas stove, gas fireplace, gas hot water and ALL my lights are CF bulbs or LED's...both my tv's are LED's as well AND both my fridges (sorry I like my small beer fridge) are less than 3 years old! What the hell am I paying for???

It will soon be cheaper for me to get a generator and buy fuel to run it instead of staying on the grid!!! Geezzzzz.... :(
5/10/2013 7:33:25 PM
tsb says:
My last hydro bill was 92.54 and I have a 1,800 sqft home, a full set of appliances, and lights on more often than I would like them to be.

If you are paying more than four times what I do, you are using an absurdly high amount of electricity.

I spent most of last summer with a credit on my account, hydro hadn't checked my meter in several months and had greatly over estimated my rate of consumption.

This is the cost of convenience, Marek. Those little fridges are really notorious power hogs and if you didn't understand that before buying one, that's your fault, not the government's.
5/11/2013 9:09:04 AM
rootbear says:
Wow, you must be doing something. My bill is alway under $200 and I have a beer fridge. What kills me is when we go away for a month at a time, we unplug EVERYTHING, turn the heat WAY down and yet when I get my bill, it's not much less than if I stayed home.....
5/11/2013 10:29:39 AM
Ehmmy says:
Marak, you should get your electrical system checked. Admittedly, I am very frugal, but my family of 4 in a 1030 sq ft house use less than $60 of electricity a month (each bill less than $120). You can borrow a watt meter from the library too to check consumption of fridges, computers, etc. to see what's using so much electricity. But with all those gas appliances, I would think there is something wrong to use that much electricity. Worth a call to hydro.
5/13/2013 1:39:16 PM
Kurtiswm says:
What happened to no fee's associated with the new smart meters. Now that the dust has settled they finally drop the bomb. Sickening paying some of the highest hydro in the country. I guess to many people were conserving energy with the time of use, so they have to raise the rates to compensate
5/10/2013 7:49:50 PM
mystified says:
If you don't like paying the power company invest in a solar system and get off the grid. You will own your own power company and save money after the investment is paid off.
5/10/2013 8:00:56 PM
ring of fire dude says:
Realistically , how long will it take for the Gov't to screw these people over . I'm guessing after the next election .
5/11/2013 8:57:01 AM
anvil of crom says:
Going off the grid is very, very, very, expensive and very, very, did i say VERY inconvienient.
Most if not all of those solar panel banks you see around town do not consitute an off grid application
Off the grid means solar panels and batteries, lots of them, banks of them.
You need plus plus capital up front and need to become a mini-electrician/ scientist at the same time, for proper battery and system maintenance.
So yes it is an option but most people will pull their hairs out when they discover simple taken for granted things like running the toaster, dishwasher coffee maker or worse yet the washing machine are big no no's.
Forget an oven or electric clothes dryer!
Its sounds good but simply not an option for our modern society, used to easy convienience.
5/11/2013 11:14:14 AM
Curious says:
Well, unfortunately someone has to pay for the extremely high wages, pensions, and benefits that last their and their entire lives - that can get expensive. Then, their is the high bonuses. And the, the high wages of the retired workers rehired as consultants - go figure!?!? too bad our wages didn't climb like that.
5/10/2013 8:39:33 PM
CM Punk says:
With the water rates rising almost 30 percent over the next three years (17, 7, and 5) and now the hydro, me thinks and hopes my wages will go up as the article from yesterday said they do.

Okay, I am kidding. We all know that the article was a farce. I feel for those who value living in their own homes but because they are on pensions they cannot keep up with the constant increases.

This city is getting out of hand with utilities and yes, they got us by the grapefruits and we simply bend over and take it.
5/10/2013 8:55:29 PM
Tiredofit says:
Yeah, let's build lots more wind parks and pay excessive amounts of money for the energy, we sure need it. It's such a good deal now isn't it!
5/10/2013 10:07:29 PM
ring of fire dude says:
Talk about "Shock Therapy" to my household budget .
5/10/2013 10:26:04 PM
Synical says:
You know, I'm using less and less hydro each month (I know this for a fact, because our fuse panel is messed up and I can't use more than a limited amount at a certain time right now without the whole thing blowing) and yet my bill gets higher and higher. We are paying ridiculous rates for THEIR debt recovery. We are paying ridiculous amounts for delivery fees. And now, we're going to be paying even more.

I beg any company to provide competition. I promise, you'll have more than enough business here.
5/10/2013 11:01:09 PM
mystified says:
The competition would have to buy the power from the producers and resell it to you. It would be the same as those creeps who go door to door and try to get you to signup for a locked in rate. The wisest thing anyone can do is stay with the main utility provider and avoid the extra charges from resellers.
5/13/2013 1:53:16 PM
ranma says:
We have switched to CFL bulbs, used time of use properly, and unplug electronics to stop vampire power, yet our bill continues to go up. How is it that the less we use, the more we have to pay?
5/11/2013 1:28:44 AM
hardrawkin says:
Being energy efficient will cause the Hydro rates to increase.
Even though we use less electricity, the cost to produce it and deliver it remains the same.

Same cost of infrastructure divided by lower Kw = more cost per Kw.
I'm afraid we are going to see a lot more increases.
5/11/2013 6:26:06 AM
thunderbaycouncel says:
how the heck does it go up 6% when inflation is only 3%?????????? wow.
5/11/2013 7:10:19 AM
SomeGuy says:
Because inflation is derived from a consumer price index which contains many other items and these items do not rise or fall at the same rate.
5/11/2013 1:03:49 PM
nvjgu says:
Complain all you people want. Nothing's going to be done, well about anything really. Hydro is not the only issue look at food costs. My food bill last month was $1200. I have been reduced to doing nothing, I don't fish anymore buy newspapers, drive when I can walk there etc. Can't imagine what it's going to be like years from now. Gas will be $5 a ltr.
5/11/2013 10:15:19 AM
SomeGuy says:
How many people are you feeding?
5/11/2013 3:58:46 PM
livewire says:
Here we go again. More money for the government. When you pay the HST, you are paying more than 6% for Hydro Rates. Have to get rid of the OEB as they are definitely a conflict of interest when the utilities ask for rate increase. Both the government and the utilities are the winners here.
5/11/2013 10:59:46 AM
hardwood floors says:
i just don`t understand how my last hydro bill for the last two billing periods was around $70.00 (and with christmas lights!!) and now the one i got in the mail yesterday is priced for $150.00. what happened??? usage is the same....
5/11/2013 12:52:17 PM
Razor_burn says:
Another scam. Just like CFL and LED bulbs which still use the same amount of power and don't even last half as long as the old school bulbs. Suckers buy CFL's and LED's. Just a money grab like anything else. This city is pathetic.
5/11/2013 1:19:04 PM
joey joe joe jr. shabadoo says:
solar panels on my home is lookin better & better each day...
5/11/2013 2:24:51 PM
Kam River says:
According to the Thunder Bay Hydro website the current rate is $ 0.124 / kWh () With the liberals Green Act they are paying up to 0.80 / kWh This is what you will be paying in a year or two. So now is the time to go after our local MP's and beg the to stop these rate increases before we can no longer afford to turn on our computer let alone have power to our homes.
5/11/2013 2:32:11 PM
localdog says:
I agree with you, minus the begging. Our MP's are supposed to work for us. We tell them what we want, they work to achieve it, or they get replaced.
5/13/2013 9:53:26 AM
captain says:
nvjguj just said his food bill was 1200 for last month. Exactly how many mouths is he feeding, 15????

My hydro bill was $147.62 for the past two months. The 6% is not on that total but even if it was, that is an increase of less than $9 for two months.

On a $500 bill, the increase is $30 for two months. Really folks. Is the sky falling because hydro went up $15 a month. If you use that much power you deserve a larger increase than those of us who use much less.

No one wants price increases, but the world is not coming to an end. Almost every posting yells doom and gloom. Not a surprise on this site. The term exaggeration is an understatement when it comes to the postings that appear here regularly
5/11/2013 4:35:10 PM
Tesla says:
Really you can feed one person for 30 days a balanced diet on $80? You should work for world vision or somethin'.

Family of five here and its $400 a week.

It is not the end of the world but the increase will hurt some people.

The article which stated the increase in wages oddly didn't suggest the fact our median income started 10% below the provincial average. (lspc 2006)

How much have wages increased in the rest of the province and where do we sit in comparison to that number and what does that mean in todays dollars when compared to previous buying power.

Just because you can't relate doesn't mean its all exageration
5/11/2013 5:24:06 PM
Groceries cost all depend on what one many people obviously and their age. A few teenage boys will run one out of house and home.
We spend 500 a month for two people, and we dont balk at buying "treats" that are expensive like chips for example.
Many but peoples groceries probably inlude items they really dont need, expensive things like processed food, candy and other junk,that they MUST have.
That crap dont count!
A big bags of potatoes/ bulk rice, onions, keep for awhile add to that fresh ground beef, frozen vegggies in large bulk bags ( no name brand) can go far.
You dont need protein everynight! and yes its not the best balance but most people could save alot buy cooking with basics.
but they will not like the time involved with prep.
We eat beyond our means.
5/11/2013 6:33:36 PM
vimeo says:
How timely...

A a few weeks ago there were a bunch of people on here who can't wait for the wind farm project to get rubber stamped and approved. 6%....that's nothing compared to what gets tacked on when wind energy has to get used up first (mandated by the province). It's only going to get worse folks.
5/11/2013 6:46:49 PM
Fluffy says:
I blame Big Daddy Dalton and his green energy act.
5/11/2013 6:59:37 PM
sheebe says:
Oh great! I live in a small 2 bedroom apt that uses electric heat. My bill is 180$ per month.I have no idea why it is so high. So an increase of 10 - 15$ more a month, well lets just say it sucks!
5/11/2013 8:36:56 PM
trevor99 says:
Found my last bill. My power costs were $80 for the two months. That means my bill is going to increase $4.80 for the next two month period. $2.40 a month. It is on the power costs, not the entire bill.

Forgive me if I do not share in the yelling and screaming that is posted on here.

As the Mayor said, go to Tim's once a month less and you will have it covered.

All this screaming for $3-3.50 a month for some of you. And for those of you who have to pay an extra $5 a month, that means you clearly can afford it.

Get a grip already.
5/11/2013 11:48:38 PM
joey joe joe jr. shabadoo says:
"As the Mayor said, go to Tim's once a month less and you will have it covered"
--->this is comin from a guy makin over 100K+ a year? Hobbs knows.
5/12/2013 5:17:28 AM
placestogo says:
There are a lot of different factors that contribute to electricity costs, size of home, type of heat, how many appliances, and electronics a person has. Sure, it might only be a few dollars now, but increases keep happening. A few dollars a month adds up throughout the years. A lot of people are already pinching pennies. Since you can afford a few extra dollars why don't you pay my increase?
5/12/2013 9:41:00 AM
The Beaver..... says:
There is a lot of confusion in all of this and people are sure not telling the truth all the time.
Instead of crying over what's right and what's wrong...its all so simple.Take the total of your Hydro Bill taxes charges and all divide it by the total number of KW..that's your Hydro cost folks.Now go to work reducing your KWH by shifting your use with the help of your smart meter rates and by consuming just a little less be amazed.
5/12/2013 9:56:43 AM
5/12/2013 11:48:12 AM
anvil of crom says:
LEd lights are amazing , not like the CFLs and their poisionous mercury content, and lack of a real lifespan...but LEDs are darn pricey and the people that need the price break on their energy bills are not going to be buying them anytime soon.
5/14/2013 3:29:37 PM
dank says:
Does expensive electricity from windfarms still sound like the right way to go. I think clean coal technology ought to be studied and our MPP's should be fighting to keep the generating station running instead of always coming up with lousy excuses.
5/12/2013 6:10:10 PM
SomeGuy says:
There is no such thing as clean coal, your still burning something.
5/13/2013 7:33:50 AM
hotchoc says:
It is funny that when the transmission costs when down a couple of months ago, I don't recall there being a story or any complaints about that.

This is a commodity, like gas, water.

If you want to spend less, use less. There are far too many electric appliances.

Computers, cell phone chargers, surround sound, hot tubs, etc all drive demand and all cost money.

The old style phone did not need electricity to charge the battery, then cordless came, call display, answering machines. Every convenience usually comes with a price.

5/12/2013 9:02:28 PM
nvjgu says:
Nice of them to tell us on may 10th.
5/13/2013 5:05:38 AM
DazeofThunder says:
It is amazing how much of a difference can make just by changing the things we have always taken for granted. How many people refuse to wear their clothes more than once before washing them? Take those extra long showers? Lol...there are still people with their christmas lights on. I don't feel sorry for those who have no self-awareness of their own actions.
5/13/2013 8:47:32 AM
dockboy says:
Six percent is a big increase in today's economy, you certainly don't see the average Joe's wages increase by that amount. Apparently electricity prices in Manitoba is at least a third less than what we pay here in Ontario. It's a direct result of mismanagement and government regulations. We are being taken!
5/13/2013 8:52:01 AM
AWalkingCalamity says:
Just in time for the longest Winter ever. Really, 6%...
5/13/2013 8:51:39 PM
fedhead says:
get used to paying-that is what happens when you have a market driven society-no one really cares about anything except what they have and what they will get-mindless drones-Tesla would be rolling in his grave-be a part of the solution-do something about it or like it -slaves
5/14/2013 4:14:56 PM
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