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2013-05-31 at 11:11

LETTER: Costco please

T&D Moore, Dryden
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To the editor:

If the city of Thunder Bay had a Costco, I think our trips that way might be more often.

The only reason we go there now is for medical trips. Our grandaughter is going to go to school there in August and wants us to come see her often. Having Costco to shop at would be a bonus.

We always travel to Winnipeg because of the shopping choices. We are pleased to see that Thunder Bay is growing with new businesses


T&D Moore,

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Counterpunch says:
Costco would be a great addition to the city. It would serve as a magnet for shoppers from the entire region of Thunder Bay. Hotels, restaurants, and other retailers would benefit. In addition, the city would likely reap an additional $2 Million a year in property and business taxes.

Before you cry Big Box Blues. Consider that the average Costco worker is paid $7 more an hour than their Walmart counter part. In the USA 82% have a health care plan. While Walmart turns over staff at 44% a year, Costco runs about 6%.

Finally, I know people who work in small locally owned food stores. In one case the women are still being paid minimum wage after 4 YEARS ! They are threatened with job loss, and are forced to sign a contract preventing them from working for a competitor after termination. So don't give me a song and dance about protecting local Ma and Pa operations. Costco has a track record of excellent employee relations.
5/31/2013 11:47:59 AM
TBDR says:
I agree... even the left of centre seems relatively okay with costco because they treat their employees much better than the average box store. I do think it would be a great addition to the city. Another thing people often misunderstand is that big box stores nowadays aren't competing with mom and pop shops so much as they are competing with other box stores. Cities all over the western world have box stores galore and still have a thriving local business community. We have a lot of box stores already, yet one look at the revitalization of bay street and downtown north and you can see that it isn't destroying the fabric of the local business community.

I hope that the mayor and Councillors that do support Costco coming here are able to help make it happen.
5/31/2013 3:43:36 PM
The Badger Mountain Hermit says:
I've been to a Costco. One here would wipe out a third of the existing retailers in this city, for starters, plus severely erode the profitability of the remaining competition.
5/31/2013 3:53:00 PM
SomeGuy says:
No it won't...
6/1/2013 8:57:33 AM
progress now says:
Is Thunder Bay big enough for a Costco?
5/31/2013 11:46:37 PM
Wolfie says:
It's more than big enough. Prince George, BC (80,000 people) has had one for over 15 years.
6/1/2013 8:32:18 PM
gone for good says:
Theres a few in Winnipeg and the savings at them is excellent.
But a certain portion of retailers seem to have some sort of exclusive club so Cosco will never be allowed in Thunder Bay. Been that way for ever and seems to allways will be.
Well worth the fifty dollars a year to be member. Gas alone is 10 cents cheaper per litre then anywhere else.
The Dark Ages will never leave Thunder Bay when it comes to Cosco or Red Lobster.
6/2/2013 11:27:25 AM
fastball says:
It's perplexing to me why Thunder Bay has never landed a Costco. I've heard all the rumours as to why...ranging from some legal resistance from SuperStore to a balky city administration. I'm not sure how much credence to put in any of Kelowna, the SuperStore and Costco are located within spitting distance of each other.
I'm no market analyst, but I figure the only Costco between Winnipeg and Sudbury would be a gold mine for the company.
Big box stores are part of the urban landscape we might as well get what we can.
6/3/2013 11:49:12 AM
tsb says:
We can't have Costco or Red Lobster here. This city is a hell hole.

I bet we'll never get a Hooters either. More opportunities missed.
6/3/2013 9:51:54 PM
lexie says:
I have been shopping at Costco (Regina) for 2 years now. Trust me when I say this - there is no real savings to be had as compared to shopping at Superstore/Walmart.
Unless you are buying for a large family - it isn't even practical! There is limited choice - no - they do not carry 50+ flavours of salad dressing - or dozens of cereals - they might have 4 or 5! And they might not have the same ones next week. And you better hope your family REALLY likes cheerios - because it comes in boxes the size of a small suitcase! (ok not quite but darn close)
You will have to repackage any meat you buy - and yes that means you will need to buy freezer bags - so much for the few cents you just saved buying 14 pork chops in one package!
The 'savings' would be eaten up in gas/meals/hotel? for anyone travelling from Dryden and surrounding areas. It wouldn't take them long to figure out there is no savings to be had by travelling 4 or 5 hours.
Would love to see an Olive Garden though!
6/4/2013 12:22:00 PM
conker2012 says:
Once Condos and apartments start to take over the North downtown area, big box will have little to no impact on the small shops. If people have to drive they will not drive to the closest place, they will drive to either the place that has the selection they want or they will go to the place that has the costs that they can afford. If you do not have to drive and you can walk out our condo and across the street to a local small grocer you will likely go there instead.

My guess is that in the next 5-10 years there will be one of more grocers moved into the down town area that are in walking distance to the condos/residential areas. Hopefully something like a Wholefoods.
6/10/2013 2:01:01 PM
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